Once again we were all present for today’s meeting: Jecel Mattos de Assumpção Jr, Ken Causey, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta, Andreas Raab, Randal Schwartz, and Igor Stasenko.
We spent the bulk of the meeting talking about 3.11 status. We didn’t come to any significant conclusions but resolved to increase communication with the release team and compile as much information as possible about the current status of this project and where it is going next.
We also discussed the wiki (Have you read Garbage Collecting the Wiki yet?), what can be done about the ‘forking impulse’, the status of the work on a new Smalltalk standard, and the 4.0 relicense release; no concrete results on these ongoing projects yet.
We meeting again on July 1, 2009. Let us know what you think we should be discussing.
June 19, 2009 at 9:46 am |
So, were you keen to fork the Wiki? Or not?
June 19, 2009 at 12:26 pm |
We are still gathering suggestions.
This is something we discussed several times before Jecel posted his blog entry
http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/garbage-collecting-the-wiki/
and it is not something we take lightly. We clearly need to have a good plan that both encourages the production of good up to date documentation and at the same time does not leave the community temporarily without even the often problematic old wiki content until it has been replaced. We don’t yet have one.
June 29, 2009 at 8:51 pm |
It was noted that there are still problems regarding to re-licensing squeak software. I understand that it is a real concern. What is still not under MIT license?
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What is 3.11 status? (meaning, where a follow up can be found?)
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About wiki, Jecel wrote about teams. IMO, it would great if there were a panel where we could find people involved in the projects and where follow-ups could be posted. And I also agree about the necessity of garbage collection & renewal.
July 4, 2009 at 2:45 am |
See details about relicensing at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3680
The main issue is to find out what is acceptable to the SFC and what isn’t. Otherwise we could waste a lot of effort doing a full “clean room” reimplementation of stuff when nobody really cares. The other danger is thinking something is good enough only to have that come back to haunt us in a few years (though I really, really doubt we will ever be sued by ex-Squeakers).
There is a lot of 3.11 discussion on squeak-dev this week.
The current list of teams is http://www.squeak.org/Community/Teams/ which only mentions the board advisor and the team leader. Looking at the archives for the team mailing list will give you an idea of who the other members are. Certainly this needs to be improved in order to attract more people to help.