Meeting Report for 6/17/2009


Once again we were all present for today’s meeting: Jecel Mattos de Assumpção Jr, Ken Causey, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta,  Andreas Raab, Randal Schwartz, and Igor Stasenko.

We spent the bulk of the meeting talking about 3.11 status.  We didn’t come to any significant conclusions but resolved to increase communication with the release team and compile as much information as possible about the current status of this project and where it is going next.

We also discussed the wiki (Have you read Garbage Collecting the Wiki yet?), what can be done about the ‘forking impulse’, the status of the work on a new Smalltalk standard, and the 4.0 relicense release; no concrete results on these ongoing projects yet.

We meeting again on July 1, 2009.  Let us know what you think we should be discussing.


4 Responses to “Meeting Report for 6/17/2009”

  1. Marcin Says:

    So, were you keen to fork the Wiki? Or not?

  2. Casimiro Barreto Says:

    It was noted that there are still problems regarding to re-licensing squeak software. I understand that it is a real concern. What is still not under MIT license?
    What is 3.11 status? (meaning, where a follow up can be found?)
    About wiki, Jecel wrote about teams. IMO, it would great if there were a panel where we could find people involved in the projects and where follow-ups could be posted. And I also agree about the necessity of garbage collection & renewal.

    • Jecel Assumpcao Jr Says:

      See details about relicensing at

      The main issue is to find out what is acceptable to the SFC and what isn’t. Otherwise we could waste a lot of effort doing a full “clean room” reimplementation of stuff when nobody really cares. The other danger is thinking something is good enough only to have that come back to haunt us in a few years (though I really, really doubt we will ever be sued by ex-Squeakers).

      There is a lot of 3.11 discussion on squeak-dev this week.

      The current list of teams is which only mentions the board advisor and the team leader. Looking at the archives for the team mailing list will give you an idea of who the other members are. Certainly this needs to be improved in order to attract more people to help.

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