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Meeting Report for 4/21/2010

April 23, 2010

Last week we decided to do notes in a round-robin manner, so Bert is writing the report this time. Everyone except Randal was present (Andreas, Bert, Chris, Craig, Jecel, Juan).

First we had some virtual champagne over the 4.1 release. Yay! Might need a little more publicizing though.

Joining the SFC is still a top-priority. We received a current draft of the agreement. We are putting it up here, please have a look if you are interested.

We spent some time discussing the new interest in documentation, which we are very excited about. To give this the proper visibility, we think it should be made part of the release, and also be linked directly from To arrive at a plan of action swifter than by week-long mailing list discussions, we suggest that the interested  folks meet on IRC soon.

Jecel pointed out that on the project list, there were few commercial applications listed done in Squeak. That might give the impression that the community was somehow opposed to commercial use, which couldn’t be further from the truth. So let’s add some commercial examples there (and if there are too many, make another page). Please send in links with a short description!

Finally we want to thank Ian Trudel for taking the initiative with surveying the community. We support the initiative, and are eager to see the results so we can take them into account in our future work.

And remember, anyone subscribed to squeak-dev can now contact the Board directly at thanks to magic pixy dust sprinkled by Ken on every one of you!

Meeting Report for 4/7/2010

April 9, 2010

As usual these days, everyone was present in the meeting (Andreas, Bert, Chris, Craig, Jecel, Juan, Randal) with Juan being a little late due to unforeseen events and a bit of bad luck.

The meeting started with Chris asking for the board to clarify its position with regards to Pharo compatibility issues. The board agrees that compatibility is both a concern as well as desirable and that we should do what we can to avoid superficial incompatibilities. Bert pointed out that we have some control over it by adding changes done in Pharo for compatibility in Squeak.

We then discussed the current status of joining the SFC. Bradley had replied to Jecel’s note and congratulated us on the release and the new board. Unfortunately, the message got apparently stuck in the spam filters so most of us hadn’t seen it before the meeting. Our next step is to get the latest draft from the SFC, review it and then execute it. There was no progress on consolidating the financial situation since it depends on the SFC membership.

We then discussed our options and Ken’s comments regarding the board list rejection policy. After some discussion we agreed that the desirable solution is to have some sort of recaptcha for verification to contact the board but since nobody was signing up for implementing it we decided it is worthwhile to go with a low-tech solution instead and have all members of Squeak-dev be whitelisted. That way, at least all the known members of our community have a way of contacting the board directly. We have contacted Ken regarding this idea and he’s investigating the options.

We spent a good amount of time discussing the situation of external packages in Squeak. We agree that the current situation is undesirable and that hopefully something can be done about this in the 4.2 time frame but what exactly that means is unclear at this point. Some ideas have been voiced that need to be discussed more widely (i.e., on Squeak-dev).

Lastly, Bert and Andreas agreed that they’re going to blow up some crazy fireworks on July 4th.

Meeting Report for 3/24/2010

March 31, 2010

To start the new term, we had a transition meeting with all the previous and current Squeak Oversight Board members. Attending were outgoing members Ken Causey and Igor Stasenko, new members Chris Muller and Juan Vuletich, and continuing members Jecel Mattos de Assumpção Jr, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta, Andreas Raab, and Randal Schwartz. The new and continuing members introduced themselves.

Outgoing members Ken and Igor handed off a few tasks. From Ken, posting meeting notes to the blog went to the rest of the group in turns; blog comment moderation went to Chris; SFC correspondence and free server hosting coordination went to Randal. From Igor, ESUG correspondence went to Andreas.

Jecel wrote to the Software Freedom Conservancy to tell them of the recent Squeak 4.0 release, the major prerequisite for our joining the Conservancy.

Andreas mentioned a few agenda items for the next meeting: the 4.1 release, consolidating finances, and receiving messages to the board mailing list with a minimum of spam (in addition to a recaptcha-assisted mechanism from the squeak website).

Thanks Ken and Igor for all your help!

Special Agenda for 3/24/2010

March 3, 2010

This will be a special meeting of both new and old Squeak Oversight Board members to facilitate ‘passing the ball’ to the new Oversight Board.

Meeting Report for 3/3/2010

March 3, 2010

For the last official meeting of this instantiation of the Squeak Oversight Board everyone was present: Jecel Mattos de Assumpção Jr, Ken Causey, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta, Andreas Raab, Randal Schwartz, and Igor Stasenko.

First we would like to remind everyone that the 2010 election for the Squeak Oversight Board is coming up very soon.  For more information see

Recently we announced an anticipated release date for the MIT/Apache licensed Squeak 4.0.  The word is getting out as evidenced by the fact that this site received 5-10 times the usual amount of traffic soon after that announcement was posted.  Ronald Spengler is kindly leading the effort to finalize the packaging of Squeak 4.0 and you should be watching squeak-dev for pre-release versions and related news.

Relatedly  we continue to work with the Software Freedom Conservancy to finalize issues related to our joining this organization.  We are hopeful of completing this not long after Squeak 4.0 is released as this release is essential to the process.

Our next meeting is scheduled for 3/24/2010.  Note that this is a week later than our usual meeting date.  The plan is to have a special meeting with all current and newly elected SOB members to get the new board up to pace quickly.  We will be contacting candidates soon to clarify the plan.

Preliminary Agenda for 3/3/2010

February 17, 2010


Squeak 4.0 and SFC

Free server hosting options

Promotion and Visibility of Squeak

Development Progress

Squeak Swiki Improvement

Meeting Report for 2/17/2010

February 17, 2010

For the (likely) penultimate meeting of this instance of the Squeak Oversight Board everyone other than Jecel Mattos de Assumpção was present:  Ken Causey, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta, Andreas Raab, Randal Schwartz, and Igor Stasenko.  Keep your eyes peeled on squeak-dev for announcements related to the upcoming Oversight Board Election.

Our discussions with the Software Freedom Conservancy continues and progress is occurring, if slowly at times.  Right now we are clarifying the exact wording regarding the licensing of the 4.0 release.  Squeak was originally released under a license written by Apple that we refer to as the Squeak License.

In 2006 Apple agreed to relicense the final release of Squeak from Apple (1.1) under the Apple Public Source License.  After further thoughts and discussions this was decided to be a less than optimal choice and Apple agreed to relicense the release, this time under the Apache License.

Since that time work has been going on to solicit agreement from Squeak contributors to relicense all subsequent contributions under the MIT License.  The result now is that parts of the image that are clearly descendants from the 1.1 release are under the Apache License and more recent contributions are under the MIT License.  These two licenses are compatible.

The question is whether we can simply say ‘MIT License’ or have to say something like ‘parts under the Apache License with the remainder under the MIT License’.  We are awaiting guidance from SFC on this issue.  Once we sort that out we will be announcing the intent to officially release a version under the new licensing conditions as widely as possible with the goal of ensuring that all contributors to Squeak are aware of the change.

We spent most of the rest of the meeting discussing trunk work and the possibility of an imminent release.  We are currently thinking of a release in about 2 months if everything goes smoothly.   Expect email from Andreas on squeak-dev soon discussing what needs to be done and soliciting opinions and assistance.

Our next meeting is scheduled for March 3rd, 2010.

Preliminary Agenda for 2/17/2010

February 7, 2010

Squeak 4.0 and SFC

Free server hosting options

Promotion and Visibility of Squeak

Development Progress

Squeak Swiki Improvement

Meeting Report for 2/3/2010

February 7, 2010

Once again everyone was present and accounted for today: Jecel Mattos de Assumpção Jr, Ken Causey, Bert Freudenberg, Craig Latta, Andreas Raab, Randal Schwartz, and Igor Stasenko.

While we are reviewing other issues are focus right now is primarily on completing the process involved in releasing Squeak 4.0 and joining the Software Freedom Conservancy.  We are still checking facts and looking for possible problems but the chances look good for an imminent (small number of weeks) release.  One aspect of that is actually taking care of the packaging of 4.0 and updating places where the licensing of Squeak is referenced.  Expect a post on squeak-dev soon to discuss this issue and hammer out the details.

We spent much of the rest of the meeting discussing the election process.  Part of our agreement with the SFC specifies how the ‘governing committee’ (AKA Squeak Oversight Board) is formed.  After the retirement of the SqueakPeople website was which was an integral part of forming the voters list for the Oversight Board election the process has temporarily become somewhat informal.  After discussing this in some detail we realized that trying to formalize things a bit more this year would likely just disrupt the upcoming election and so we ultimately decided to set this issue aside for now.  After the election the new Oversight Board and the Election Team should work on this issue with the assistance of the entire community.

Thanks to Chris Cunnington with assistance from others on squeak-dev instructions on how to install Seaside on Squeak were placed on the Squeak website and linked to from the Seaside website.  As a community we fully intend to ensure that Seaside continues to run on Squeak.

Our next meeting is scheduled for 2/17/2010.

Preliminary Agenda for 2/3/2010

January 21, 2010

Contributor relicensing agreements

Software Freedom Conservancy and Relicensing

Free server hosting options

Promotion and Visibility of Squeak

Development Progress

Squeak Swiki Improvement

Seaside support

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